Locational Astrologer
Julian Lee
 

www.julianlee.com

805-640-9591

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Not all of them keep me updated with new addresses or send me reports. I would even surmise that most of them don't let me know what they end up doing. I have done well over 3,000 readings and recommendations. Based on the lists I have kept, emails and letters, I estimate at least 150 confirmed moves by clients of mine.

But I also get a lot of hearsay and "grapevine" reports from friends: "So-and-so referred me to you; they are happy in their new location..." (But so-and-so has not contacted me about their move.) Based on the grapevine, I think I can easily assume at least another 100 movers out there, or a bigger number of 250 who have relocated to places I recommended.

Do all of your clients get such good results?

No. Results vary. Everyone has a unique set of chart strengths and problems. The results depend a lot on what you have available for me to "use." Some have many difficult transits ahead in the immediate future that will affect them in various ways wherever they live. Others have many excellent and supportive factors to work with. I have letters from clients that are more bland than those posted on the site. On the site I have posted some of the better letters. Also, in the many readings I have done and many years I have worked, I do have a few unsatisfied clients. You should be aware of this and realize that this is not magic or a guarantee. There is always a chance that the things you and I want will not work out there. The unhappy movers and some of their results are cited below (without names).

So what would you say is your "satisfaction rate"?

I don't like trying to cast it in cold mathematical terms, but I want to present information that can help answer these legitimate questions of enquirers. So here goes: If you only take the a solid minimum of 150 movers, then take the seven unsatisfied ones I know about (noted below), it would give a 95.4% satisfaction rate (4.6% dissatisfaction rate). "Satisfaction" here means they have not expressed dissatisfaction; also that they are glad they moved after 1-2 years in the place, after getting established.

If we factor in the nebulous "grapevine" figure of another 100 moves, my record could come out better, because I think that those really unhappy with their move tend to at least let me know, rather than not let me know.  However, to be conservative let us presume the opposite case: Let's assume a full 10 percent of the "unreported" moves are really unhappy moves. That would mean 7 out of the 150 known, and 10 out 100 unreported moves are unhappy, or 17 out of 250. This would give satisfaction rate of 93.2%. (Dissatisfaction of 6.8%.) This is still over 90 percent satisfaction, which I like to say seems better that the success rate of some stock brokers, doctors, and lawyers.

I don't like analyzing it in this mathematical way. It is hard to attach qualitative numbers to life, and things are constantly in flux. Really, the best I hope for is that within a year or two, or sooner, the client is glad to have moved and sees some real positive changes. Then to go further, I aim for further improvements further down the line. It's also important to be aware that every location will have something unsatisfactory about it. Conversely, every location has something good about it. However, I am trying to answer the questions reasonably for your information. The point I want to make is that it is not guaranteed; some are unhappy soon after a move. There is that risk.

It is common that if I can't find something I feel sure of, I pass by the project and refund the client's fee. To operate conservatively and protect my clients, I turn down at least 3 out of 10 of the cases that I look at.

Do you have clients who are unsatisfied with their results?

Yes. I have at least seven. I list them here briefly without names for your information, and in some cases, to satisfy them. The following dissatisfied clients constitute around 5% of my known relocated clients. I have tried to include in these citations the very worst of the things they reported, or the comments that they made. With at least three of these seven, I have reason to believe the birth time I was given was inaccurate. I also have added a few other comments in my own defense with these cases, in smaller print.

1. North Carolina relocatee.
This woman experienced much dissatisfaction with property she bought on moving to Asheville, including problems with the foundation, over which she initiated litigation, all in the first year. She also stated that she did not like the town, and that she felt isolated. This client was, frankly, very unhappy about her move. She stated that I should not be doing this work and that I am dangerous to the public. This came up in the year 2000.

Home ownership was not stated as one of her goals, but some other things. I believe that had she stayed there, she would have definitely evolved into her stated work goal, which was to do shamanic healing in prisons.
 
2. Move from Colo. to Grass Valley, California
She said it was terrible there. She disliked Grass Valley very much and told me in an email.

This client was gaining only slight technical improvements in this move and it was a difficult case for me. This client described her life as "nothing but hell" in the original location. I have not had much luck with Grass Valley, California although some like it.
 
3. Mover from Colo. to Tucson
This client moved from Colorado to Tucson and stated that she had lost a lot of money and she was going back to Colorado. She left me a phone message that said she lost her life savings.

This locational recommendation was sensitive to birth time accuracy (cusps near 29 and 0). On checking it I feel that the bad results indicated a different set of house rulers was obtained than the rulers I had intended, due to a slight birth time inaccuracy.

4. Ireland attempt.
One woman told me that she tried to get established in Ireland for 6 months and could not get a foothold. She gave up and came back to the U.S. and wrote to me. She wanted a refund. I wrote back asking her to call me or give me a number and brief me on what happened, but she didn't respond. I don't give refunds after giving recommendations. I am paid to render my best opinion based on much experience, not to be God. I expect clients to use normal processes to connect with a location, get attracted to it, and get some good reason to move there.. I don't know where she is now. This came up in 1999.

This client had a birth time that looked rounded (exactly on the hour). Success in the location would have depended on perfect accuracy in this case. (Perfect accuracy is not normally critical, but was in this case.
 
5. Louisiana relocatees.
A couple reported negative phenomena after the first four months in a suburb of New Orleans. This included a basement that flooded, unsatisfactory schools for their son, and a dislike of the cultural and natural environment, though the woman reported improved health. This came up in fall 2001. They were optimistic; fine about the whole thing.

The results were very different from what I expected from the charts; very odd. The birth time of the man was presented to me at the outset as iffy/questionable. In this case an inaccuracy of ten minutes would have given a very different chart and explained the problem well. I advised them to return to their original location, where they still owned their home. They returned to the old location soon after moving.

6. Mover from New England to New Mexico
This client was unable to stay in the destination location. She ended up wasting a lot of time and money. She actually did not have good early results there, the sort of results I was expecting, but I did not know about this till much later despite many consultations with her. Her living environment at the outset was stressful and negative. She had complexities and difficulties about a storage unit there.

The client did not keep in touch with me about her results until a lot of time and money was spent. Otherwise we might have corrected the move. In the original reading the client insisted that I used a "rectified" birth time (which only means an astrologer's guess). At the time I told her I didn't feel that the birth time was correct because it didn't seem to fit what I knew about her. This client insisted that I use that time for my work. I felt that her bad results clearly implied that the time used was wrong. This work is usually very reliable.

7. Manatee Springs, Colo. to Grass Valley, California.
This client, in 2004, was very unhappy after moving to Grass Valley. She dislikes the place and the people very intensely. Some quotes: "I have a horrible feeling this is all wrong." "I was leaving (my old location) in a big hurry." She said her first apartment there was a "hideous, hell-like place." "My depression has worsened."  She also was unhappy that, although I pointed out to her that her birth time could be inaccurate (being an Illinois birth time), I told her at the end of the original reading. She stated that by telling her that fact at the end of the original reading, it "completely discredited you."

This client had an Illinois birth time in the period when Illinois birth times were unreliable. I have not had many good reports with Grass Valley California. Reports have been much better with nearby Nevada City, California. It might partly be a problem of the particular town. I always advise clients to investigate an area until you find the particular town that you like, and to never move to one that you dislike at the outset. I often give the example that I like my town of Ojai, California. Only 20 minutes away is Ventura, California and my chart is the same there. But I very much dislike Ventura, California. One can always find a town to dislike within a region that I recommend, and I always advise my clients to avoid moving to any town that they dislike upon investigation.

These are the seven that I know of with certainty as unhappy or unsuccessful with their moves.

Too-Early-To-Tell Moves
I have a similar small handful of clients (6-10) who have not been impressed with their first year, or who have  had a difficult first year. I am not including these in the above because it is my opinion that they need to spend more time; the factors I was aiming at for them have not ripened yet; and/or they happen to be undergoing inevitable harsh transits during their first year in the location. In these cases I have advised them to bide their time and hang in there. I don't see it as appropriate to call them relocation misses yet. As a general rule, a minimum of one year should be spent before evaluating. In some cases, two to three years is wise because I "build in" the value of very long-term transits for my clients. (Part of my technique is to choose locations that are especially favored, in special ways, by major long-term transits operating locationally. It takes time for a place to evolve its "fruit.")
 

What do you think when it doesn't work out? What do you say are the reasons?

 SOME ANSWERS:
1) An inaccurate birth time can cause big problems in some cases. It should be accurate within 5 minutes or there can be major flaws. (Most birth times are NOT perfectly accurate, but most are within five minutes.)
2) The client may be having a temporary harsh transit.
3) As mentioned, adequate time may have not spent by the client in the new location.
4) I might make an error in judgment, perhaps underestimating a factor.
5) The client might have to give up some things to have what he/she wants. The client may not really be willing or ready to do that. They may not really be honest with themselves about their true goals.
6) A client might not be making much effort, or has a negative attitude about their own life and success.
7) My system, like any system, has its limitations and flaws.
8) You can't really get good karma that you don't really have. The client needs to prepare for success.

Perfect Happiness Doesn't Come From Astrology

I don't claim anything like the perfect happiness of my clients. That is not a common  condition anywhere in this world. The world itself is not really our true home; and we remain involved with this thing called "samsara." This samsara -- constant change and duality -- can not be overcome through  astrology, which simply describes and narrates  duality. The real solution to suffering is in fact in the spiritual life. The more we attain to that "chartless" nondual place within us, the more I think we can know the truth of the  Buddha's statement: "It is always pleasant wherever a sage dwells." 

On the other hand, there are laws of location and laws of ego, and things really are different in different places. (The bumper sticker says "Wherever you go, there you are." But ask the driver "Why drive anywhere then?" Answer: He changes his experience that way.) If we must be somewhere, we may as well employ the laws of location  intelligently. The space-time nexus is actually the primarily delivery mechanism of karma. Space is a sacred thing. The reason we have this thing called "space" spreading out around us is so that we can vary our worldly experience. It is possible to use the laws of space and time more intelligently. And it is possible for me, most of the time, to find locations for clients that are in significant ways better than others. The letters here show some of the results of that work and my experience. Although nobody gets a perfect chart or perfect results, apparently my satisfaction rate is higher than what people expect from professionals like doctors, lawyers, and stockbrokers.

I feel good about the success of my clients. I also feel good knowing that most of my relocated clients will be like "success time bombs." I recommend locations for long term value and many won't see their best years until 2005, 2006 and beyond. Sometimes it is wise to get seats at the show early.